Have I mentioned how awesome Vortex fans are lately? Well I need to. You guys kick ass! We are literally only 72 hours into our month long smoking survey, and over 4,700 people have already participated. This warms my icy black heart. The Vortex Smoking Survey will be active for another 27 days. So, please be sure to let us know what YOU think. If you haven’t done so yet, you can CLICK HERE to take the survey.
The last question on the survey allows participants to submit a brief comment, and over 1,700 people have done so. These comments are pretty interesting (at least to me), so I have compiled a random sample to share in this update. This will probably be my only update until I report our final decision in our Blog sometime in early February. But who knows?
• Will continue to be a customer no matter what, but food tastes better without smoke.
• Just moved to L5P and love The Vortex. Don’t want to bug people who come there to smoke, but honestly I would come more if it wasn’t allowed.
• I’m a child of the 80’s. I remember cigarette vending machines, and restaurants so clouded with smoke you could lose sight of your table on the way back from the bathroom. I realize smoking is an individual choice, but I’d prefer to not to have my Vortex experience tainted because someone else’s choice. You seriously dont need a cigarette to eat/drink.
• I would prefer it be non-smoking. But honestly the ventilation is so good at the midtown location that I have rarely been annoyed by the cigarette smoke.
• Everything about The Vortex is great except the smoke. If you smoke anywhere in the building, you might as well be smoking everywhere. It is overwhelming, therefore I only go about once a month, though I live within walking distance.
• Drinks and smoke are fine, food and smoke are not.
• Although I am no longer a smoker, it’s nice to know that there is still an establishment that allows smokers to smoke indoors.
• I would love to see a change in the smoking policy. A few years ago I stopped going to the Midway pub because of the smoking inside. Now, they have changed their policy and I am there on a regular basis!
• I just prefer not to smell like an ashtray after I leave the bar. You know what I’m saying? Love your food.
• I respect everyone’s opinion on this controversial (though increasingly less controversial) subject. I would personally be encouraged to visit The Vortex more frequently without the smoke inside. I hope the venue becomes a 100% smoke-free environment.
• Great food and drinks. Smoking should be done outside. Just like I do at home.
• Our group of friends love the food and the “no kids” policy. It’s on our list of favorites when we’re considering food before or after a bar crawl. It’s super convenient because one of us owns a condo right above the midtown location. However, the only reason we have ever decided against actually coming for greasy food that tastes like heaven, after being hungover all day, is because smoking is allowed.
• I don’t even smoke, but I liked that you stuck to your guns. It’s a bar, people should be able to smoke.
• I enjoy the kid-free atmosphere more than anything to do with smoking. If you do make it non-smoking, please continue the no kids policy. PLEASE.
• Smoking kind of goes with The Vortex vibe so I respect that, but I would probably spend more time in your bar (read – more money) if smoking wasn’t allowed there.
• Either way you go I’ll still be visiting, but I do enjoy the privilege of smoking at The Vortex.
• Even though I no longer smoke, I hope your policy doesn’t change. If it’s a business decision, I understand.
• It’s not a big deal to me either way. I love your burgers, your staff is the best, and your house drinks are awesome. Forever a fan, no matter what is decided. Now where’s my Skull Crusher?
• The Vortex is an awesome restaurant and we tolerate the smoke. Although it sucks to smell so bad when we leave, we deal. I’d prefer no smoking indoors, but I also know what I signed up for when we go there to eat.
• I’ve never been a smoker but don’t really care if you can smoke in there or not. I truly love the no kid atmosphere. It’s rare to get to have lunch without kids being loud and throwing stuff.
• As a smoker, it doesn’t bother me at all to smoke outside.
• We have some friends that would like to come with us to The Vortex, but will not because of sensitivity to cigarette smoke.
• I’ve always known The Vortex to be a bar that allows smoking. It doesn’t bother me and I don’t think it needs to change. I also don’t drink, and I love going there.
• I don’t have a problem with people smoking unless it’s around my food. I used to frequent back in the 1990’s and early 2000’s. But I think the older I get, the less I can tolerate the smoke. But gosh you have good burgers and would welcome the change.
• I absolutely love your food and establishment. I typically can deal with the smoke, but sometimes it’s just a bit much. Still my favorite place in the world to eat.
• Love y’all. Gonna keep visiting either way.
• Do what’s best for your business.
I have heard such great things about the food there but will not go based on smoking being allowed in the restaurant.
Stacey,
Freedom of choice is great – No hard feelings. We are happy to know that you’ve heard great things about our food. We believe our smoking policy may no longer be as popular as it once was, so we are reassessing it with the help of our fans using this online survey. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
If you dont want to be around cigarettes then maybe a bar isnt the place for you.
Kim,
That has always been our philosophy about our smoking policy. Our concern is that this policy may no longer be as popular as it once was, so we are reassessing it with the help of our fans using this online survey. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
I’m going to continue to patronize The Vortex either way. I’d prefer you create a nice outdoor space for smokers. Oh, and keep it a kid-free zone.
Lee,
Thank you for being a loyal patron. Our goal is determine how to best please our core clientele. Many people have expressed support for our “Kid-Free” atmosphere through this online survey (even though it is technically about our smoking policy). So, thanks for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
Statistically, there is NOTHING good about secondhand smoke. This really shouldn’t be a survey or a question. Do the right thing.
Sincerely,
A Little 5 regular
Greg,
Nothing we offer at The Vortex is really “good for you.” The Vortex was conceived as a place where consenting adults can go to indulge in vices, and to clarify, “health” has never been a consideration in this equation. But, we believe our smoking policy may no longer be as popular as it once was, so we are reassessing it with the help of our fans using this online survey. This is about making a business decision. Our aim is to please our core clientele. Thank you for being a regular, even though you do not like our smoking policy. And thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
It’s a fucking bar. If you don’t like the smoke, don’t come in… I don’t even smoke and I’ll still come.
Mike,
Your sentiments mirror our philosophy in general about smoking policies. Our concern is that our current smoking policy may no longer be as popular as it once was with our customers, so we are reassessing it with the help of our loyal fans using this online survey. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
No smoking… you will lose business period. Come on… make a place outside or inside with major ventalation room only. No brainer.
Todd,
We understand that we may potentially lose certain patrons based on our current smoking policy. Of course our goal is to do what’s best for our business by pleasing our core clientele. In fact, we are concerned that our smoking policy may no longer be as popular as it once was, so we are reassessing it with the help of our fans using this online survey. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
Please make it okay to smoke on the patio. I know everyone hates smokers now but we still exist. I love your restaurant and love that you let us smoke while we enjoy your amazing burgers and beers. Quarantine us to the outside and let the nonsmokers enjoy the indoor atmosphere.
John,
We agree that smokers have been marginalized over the years, which might be why our smoking policy is no longer as popular as it once was. We are reassessing our current smoking policy with the help of our fans using this online survey. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
I do not care about the smoking policy either way, BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep it kid-free! That’s the best part!
Brooke,
Even though this survey is about our smoking policy, your sentiment is a very popular one. Our core demographic really seems to enjoy our “kid-free” atmosphere. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
Yeah, if smoking gets banned, keep kids banned too!
Kaiti,
The results of this smoking survey will not impact our current age restriction, either way. Your sentiment is a very popular one. Our core demographic really seems to enjoy our “child-free” atmosphere. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
I think smoking needs to be banned. Good food does not need to be interfered with by the smell of smoke.
Brycen,
Thank you for taking our online Smoking Policy Survey. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
I’m all about freedom of choice and making the decision, as a grown adult, to smoke or not. My only issue here is that everyone is focused on cigarettes. How long does it take to smoke one? Two minutes? What about vaping at the bar? Is that cool because it smells like strawberry shortcake? Or what about a cigar where it’s common to have a puff every few minutes and it takes an hour to burn?
What’s the policy on all three products? Oh, and while I’m at it, there has been only one study by the FDA on that product stating there is no significant risk of cancer: Cigars. Those other things will kill you and the FDA has the data.
Peter,
Freedom of choice IS great. But the particular freedom we are discussing here is a business owner’s freedom to offer whatever goods, services or activities are determined to be of interest to their chosen target market. Our current policy on the matter describes OUR choice: “We allow the option to smoke cigarettes and e-cigarettes to patrons seated at our bar. Smoking is not allowed at any table. Additionally, we do not allow the smoking of cigars, pipes, clove cigarettes or anything deemed ‘illegal’ by the Oligarchs.” We are now conducting this online survey to see what our patrons think, to help us decide if we should reconsider our current smoking policy. The Vortex was conceived as a place where consenting adults can go to indulge in vices, and to clarify, “health” has never been a consideration in this equation. Thank you for your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.
Been to The Vortex a few times (Only after Concerts and much Alcohol). My girl and I and our friends don’t smoke. We would be there much more frequently if there was a no smoking policy. We actually have friends that won’t even go after the Concert nights when we do go. We all have to be damn near drunk to tolerate it. That’s sad because I heard the food was good. Love to taste it without smoke in our lungs… makes sense.
Eric,
Thank you for taking our online Smoking Policy Survey. We appreciate your input. Be sure to check back in early February to see what decisions we have made.